04
Aug
08

Warning as a Sign of Caring

 

     More than one member of the LDS church has said that it is unloving for me or anybody else to point out the dangers we see in Mormonism.  Is that really true?

     I would submit that the opposite is true.  That it would be unloving not to point out those dangers.  Hopefully this little analogy makes my point.  If you know that the bridge is out around the next corner, it would be callous and unloving, and possibly even criminal, to let the cars whiz by without trying to stop them.  The loving thing is to stand in the middle of the road waving your arms, warning people of the danger ahead.

     The problem is that the dangers in Mormonism are not as easily seen as a downed bridge.  In fact, most LDS members would vehemently object that there are any dangers in Mormonism.  But that’s not really to the point.  In the above scenario, assume for a moment that the bridge wasn’t out.  I just thought it was.  Even if that was the case, the loving thing for me to do would still be to sound the warning.  If I truly thought the bridge was out, but I just let you drive by, I would still be acting callously towards you. 

     I believe that there are many wrong and dangerous teachings in Mormonism.  Because I care for the LDS people, I will continue to sound the warning.  It’s the only loving thing to do.

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7 Responses to “Warning as a Sign of Caring”


  1. August 4, 2008 at 4:08 am

    I feel the exact same way. Christ’s message is too important to not declare on the rooftops. Even to those who think don’t need it.

    The long awaited and prophesied restoration of the gospel has occurred. Christ’s kingdom has been established again on the earth to leave no more and will roll forth until if fills the whole world as prophesied by Daniel. Open your hearts and minds to its message. Ask the Holy Spirit to witness of its hope and truth. Read the Book of Mormon with sincerity; its purpose is to witness of the Savior and bring individuals closer to Him.

    “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,” – Rev. 14:6

  2. August 4, 2008 at 4:15 am

    I do have a really hard time with you implying that LDS doctrines are dangerous. Would you mind spelling that out? There’s a lot of misinformation out there, it’s not nice or loving to play off of the many fears and misconceptions that swirl around the media already.

    Here’s a summation of LDS doctrine. Accept Christ as your Savior and follow His teachings. Yep, that’s it, follow all of the commandments so that you can become a better person in Christ.

    My personal point of view is that your ideas of accepting Christ, but not worrying about the commandments (do I have that right? you won’t answer me) are much more “dangerous” to eternal salvation.

  3. August 4, 2008 at 5:00 am

    I would submit that others as I have, are trying to point out the dangers we see in you disrespectful mis-understanding of a faith you seem to attack behind the cloak of love in christ. What warrnings are you shouting? Should you not inpart the love of christ and first serve your fello man and then share the message of the gospel? What is the message you are sharing in your targeted attack of a particular christian faith that very much beleives in the Gospel of Christ, the same gospel you suggest to want to share with them?

    As far as I have read on your Blog there is naught more than the discuragement of people to follow the comandments of God (as found in the Bible) and the direct encouragement of members of the LDS church to disregard the suggestions of the Church leadership, that if they would adhear to they would have a stronger foundation in the scriptures and their spiritual health and faith in Jesus Christ.

    This leaded me to conclude that you do not have Love for these people, that you do not consider the example of Christ and that you do intend evil to come to these people.

    Am I too harsh? Well, I am sorry for putting it so blunt but as I see it I cannot stand idlely by and let this travisty to continue if I can reprove but one who rails against heaven. For all it takes for evil to succede is for good men to do nothing.

    Your words have poisioned some minds already and like a viper in the grass you I assume have been disillusioned to beleive that you share the message of Christ in this venture, but I assure you that you are baiting a ill line for saints that have not have the foundation firmly under their feet yet. You are part of the flood Christ warrned against. Your message has a ill report and cannot be of Christ for it has been said that if a message is of good tidings and speaks of good and righteousness in truth, then it is of Christ. Your message that discurrages people to read their scriptures, learn of Christ, and follow the comandments of God and the guidance & encouragement that leads to a better understanding of Christ. Is that the message you consider righteous?

    May God bless you with the desernment to know what you do,
    It is not too late to change brother, but the direction you have been going is not for the betterment of others,
    -D

  4. 4 markcares
    August 5, 2008 at 1:09 am

    What are the dangers of Mormonism? By far the greatest danger is adding obedience to the discussion of salvation. “We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.” (Third Article of Faith) We are not saved after all we can do. We are saved by grace alone, not of works. Adding obedience, “all we can do”, or anything else ruins salvation. That is not the gospel of the Bible – that is not the way to eternal life – that is the way to outer darnkess. That is a message that needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

    Jesus has done it all. i implore each of you to trust solely in his work of salvation. Give Jesus all the glory for saving you.

  5. August 5, 2008 at 3:51 am

    Oh come on! How can it be dangerous to obey God’s commandments? Do you hear yourself? Your actually telling the world that they don’t need to obey God?

    Mark are you capable of improving your own behavior? If you decide today that you need to quit letting road rage get the best of you are you capable of adjusting that part of your life? What about helping others? Can you actually accomplish anything good in this world if you decide you want to apply your time and effort in doing so?

    I submit that we do have such strength given unto us. It’s not hard to see, there are examples of it everywhere on this earth. It’s even been proven scientifically, we can better ourselves. God has given us intelligence, strength, and the opportunity to exercise our agency here on this earth. He has given us the gospel of Christ, and Christ’s perfect example to follow. We also have Satan’s influence and have been commanded to choose whom we will follow. Accepting Christ as our Savior is the starting line, not the finish line. Once we accept Christ we need to learn about Him and His teachings and actually follow them. All of His teachings are about living righteous lives. The commandments aren’t just filler, they’re included in the Bible for a reason.

    Mark if you really believe that we can’t do anything good, that we can’t add anything to Christ’s perfect body of work, then why are you trying to preach the gospel at all? Isn’t that useless since Christ already did everything? If we’re not capable of change, then why bother with any of it at all?

  6. August 5, 2008 at 5:05 am

    Mark,
    What do you mean by the term “Salvation” or the term “Saved”?
    By some standards all will be saved but by others many will not. Do you know what the “Mormon” beleif is that speaks of outer darkness? Did you know that it is reserved only for those who choose it, by their rebellous nature? If you mean going to heaven as being saved then it is offered to all people who have gained a body, thus all of man kind is freely offered this salvation. What the “Mormon” teachings are that encourage anything more than the meer acceptance of this salvation through faith in christ is for exaltation. You may think that this means taking some glory away from God, but it is in truth adding Glory to God. How good is it for a father to have raised a child that has trust and faith in him that “Dad” will always be there and save him? How much more the Glory of the father who has raised his child to think independantly and choose the to follow his consol and guidence, to do the will of the father and to understand, knowing that it is by choice that this glory is brought about, not blind trust. Our obediance to the ordinances and comandments of God does not diminish his grace nor his Glory by one iota, but does increase it to infinitedum.

    Our Glory is only a reflection of our Father’s Glory, for it is his will we do, his commandments we keep, his example we follow, and his love we share.

    Do not continue in contention, but see how the encouragement to do what is right is good and the discuragement of the same is evil.

    What is not good is not of God.
    -D

  7. 7 Stephanie
    August 9, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Hi Reggie,

    I’m confused why you don’t understand the vital difference that Mark is trying to point out. No one is advocating disobedience or bad behavior. If you spend your life trying to climb to the top of a tree, and when you finally get to the top and you realize that it’s the wrong tree, what’s the point of that? All Mark is trying to say is that obedience (in order to gain salvation) is like climbing the wrong tree. It’s wasted effort in the context of achieving forgiveness of sins (salvation). If you are trying to climb the “tree of salvation,” there isn’t such a tree at all! Satan has tried to confuse people into thinking they are achieving something, when in fact, they are not. All we need is faith in Christ’s sacrifice. The cross of Christ is the only “tree” we need. The difference is clear and simple. Obedience does not bring salvation. Obedience is a fruit of salvation. True Christians live their lives in accordance with God’s Word and commandments out of love for His free gift of salvation.

    If you were a father and wanted to give your child a free plane ticket so he could fly home for your birthday, but your child thought he had to earn that ticket first, how frustrated would you be? If your child spent months trying to earn the money for that ticket instead of just taking your free gift, wouldn’t you be frustrated, even angry, because you wanted to see your child? I know it’s not the best analogy.

    The purpose of the law is to expose sin. The law makes us realize our need for a savior. The law makes us realize that we cannot keep all of the law, thus we have broken all of it. Once we realize our need for a savior, we can accept through the grace of the Holy Spirit, God’s free gift of forgiveness through Christ. And then, following naturally, comes the obedience that you speak of. The important difference is that the obedience is totally irrelevant for salvation.

    God Bless you.


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