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Apr
09

Radiation Suit

 

     One way that I like to picture God’s holiness is as strong radiation.  His holiness constantly is radiating out from him.  By its very nature, it destroys anything imperfect with which it comes into contact. 

     That is why, in order to enter God’s presence, we can’t have the slightest imperfection.  Otherwise we will be destroyed.  But how can we do that?  By being clothed in Christ’s righteousness.  “he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness.”  (Isaiah 61:10)  Or, in keeping with the illustration, by wearing the radiation suit made by and given by Jesus.

     But just suppose that Jesus has given me that radiation suit but I had been working hard on making my own.  I realize that Jesus’ suit is vastly superior so I put it on.  But I have worked so hard on my own suit that I decide to use just one glove from it.  So I substitute the glove I made for the one Jesus supplied.  I walk into God’s presence only to be destroyed by his holiness.  My glove couldn’t protect me from the radiation of his holiness because it wasn’t perfect – it was flawed.  “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”  (James 2:10)

     The point is that no matter how little we are relying on ourselves – maybe I just replace one finger on one glove – that little bit of reliance on self becomes a fatal flaw.  Even the tiniest flaw in a radiation suit spells disaster.  Neither does it matter what my motivation is for slightly relying on myself.  It could be prideful reluctance to give up what we worked so hard doing – it could be the thought that this is what God wants.  It doesn’t matter – if we are relying even, very slightly, on what we have to do in order to stand in God’s presence, we have a flawed radiation suit – and we will be destroyed.

     That is why Mormonism is so dangerous.  It points people not only to Jesus but also to themselves.  For example, its 3rd Article of Faith states:  “We believe that through the Atonement of Christ all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.”  Since we sin so much, our obedience isn’t perfect.  Therefore the only thing our imperfect obedience does is make our suit flawed.  And a flawed suit is a formula for disaster.

 

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13 Responses to “Radiation Suit”


  1. April 28, 2009 at 12:20 am

    I think I know what my LDS friends would say, Mark.

    Even if Jesus gives you a perfect radiation suit, you still have to be the one to put it on.

    Baptism, Gift of the Holy Ghost, Sealing, etc. are all pieces of the suit that you put on. Jesus made it, and it is perfect, but you still have to put it on.

    I’m not saying I agree with that view of salvation. But if I were Mormon? That’s probably how I would respond to that analogy.

  2. 2 markcares
    April 28, 2009 at 12:35 am

    I think some Mormons might say that. but I have talked with many more who say that a person must do more than put on the suit. That’s why Joseph Smith taught: “To get salvation we must not only do some things, but everything whcih God has commanded.”

  3. April 28, 2009 at 6:34 am

    Yeah, I’d pretty much respond that the required works in Mormon theology consist of nothing more or less than accepting and putting on the radiation suit.

  4. April 28, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Similar response as above and previous posts. Who gets a suit? Does everyone get one installed for them? What is the criteria for those who have such a suit? What separates the haves from the have nots?

  5. 5 GB
    April 28, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    We believe that through the Atonement of Christ all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

    So basically, Jesus gave us the material for the suit (His Atonement and Gospel) and we make the suit by using His material. If we use His material (Atonement and Gospel) and make the best suit we can (obey the laws and ordinances of the Gospel) He will extend more grace and mend any flaws in our suit, thus making it perfect.

  6. 6 markcares
    April 29, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    There’s a big difference in getting the materials and making the suit and being given a suit already made. Especially when you factor in how often we sin – last post. If we sin so much that would say we would have pretty shabby workmanship. Unless a person doesn’t think he sins very much.

  7. 7 ADB
    April 30, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    I can’t help but notice from post #5 the stark contrast between Christians and the LDS in the use of the term “gospel.” For Christians, the gospel = the “Atonement of Christ.” Yet notice how the “gospel” in LDS usage is synonymous with “obedience.”

    GB, the problem I see with your take on this picture is that Jesus never says, “make the best suit you can” and I’ll cover the rest. On the contrary, he very clearly requires that any suit we try to make must be perfect. His point? We can’t make a perfect suit. We must rely solely on his.

  8. 8 ADB
    April 30, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Eric,

    Yes, everyone gets the suit put on (Christ’s atonement counted for all sins of all people–universal justification–on account of Jesus, God has declared the entire world “not guilty”). However, some reject that suit and take it off, either failing to recognize they need it, or preferring to make their own. Neither will hold up.

    The “haves” get no credit for wearing something that someone else dressed them with, but the “have nots” don’t receive the benefit of the suit because they rejected it.

  9. 9 GB
    April 30, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    ADB,

    You really didn’t pay much attention to what I ACTUALLY wrote.

    The analogy of the suit is MARK’S not mine. I only tried to show how it would need to be modified to more accurately describe the LDS point of view.

    3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

    What good does the Gospel do you if you don’t obey it?

    4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    Obviously these principles and ordinances do you no good, unless you partake of them. These are part of the Gospel “material” that Jesus provides.

    Is “Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ” Biblical?

    Is “Repentance” Biblical?

    Is “Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins” Biblical?

    Is the “Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost” Biblical?

    Some people don’t understand the “gifts” that Jesus offers.

    Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, FOR TO GIVE REPENTENCE to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

    Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles GRANTED REPENTANCE UNTO LIFE.

    What good is the gift of repentance, if you don’t accept it? How do you show that you have accepted it except by doing it? If it wasn’t needed why was it given?

    Why did Jesus say such things as “go, and sin no more.”?

    And “Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.”?

    Does this verse mean what it says?

    Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    And what about verses like these.

    2 Pet 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, (BOTH of them)
    3 According as his divine power hath GIVEN UNTO US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO LIFE (like Repentance) and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
    4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped (through Repentance) the corruption that is in the world through lust.
    5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue (through Repentance); and to virtue knowledge;
    6 And to knowledge temperance (through Repentance); and to temperance patience (through Repentance); and to patience godliness (through Repentance);
    7 And to godliness brotherly kindness (through Repentance); and to brotherly kindness charity.
    8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. (my comments)

    There is more to it than just sitting back and verbally accepting a gift.

  10. 10 Echo
    May 1, 2009 at 6:32 am

    Quote GB “What good does the Gospel do you if you don’t obey it?”

    Obeying the entire law without fail is also biblical:

    “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10)

    When we fail to obey the entire law of God at all times and in all ways, including in our thoughts, words and deeds, we break the entire law of God. We become as guilty as the vilest offender imaginable. A law breaker is a law breaker.

    Since we all sin, we can’t make a suit because we havn’t got what it takes to put it together. Does God want us wandering around uncertain of whether or not the radiation will kill us? NO! God is a God of love, he wants to give us a certainty that they suit he has given us is radiation proof!

    The only way to do that is to make the suit for us and to put that suit on us.

  11. 11 GB
    May 4, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    “Since we all sin,”

    Actually, the verses say “For all have sinned” and “for that all have sinned”. Ever notice that both of those verses speak of sin in the past tense. That is what the Gospel is for, to put sin behind us through repentance.

    “we can’t make a suit because we havn’t got what it takes to put it together.”

    Well, if you don’t have the true Gospel of Jesus Christ then that is an accurate statement.

    “Does God want us wandering around uncertain of whether or not the radiation will kill us? NO! God is a God of love,. . . ”

    True.

    “. . . he wants to give us a certainty that the suit we are making is radiation proof, that is why he gives us the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands.”

    There fixed it for you.

    “The only way to do that is to make the suit for us and to put that suit on us.”

    A faulty conclusion based on faulty premises.

  12. 12 gloria
    May 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Amen! There is NO way we can make a good enough suit – it’s impossible. It’s not grace +all you can do. It’s grace alone. We are all hopelessly flawed. Haven’t met a perfect person yet, and the wages of sin is death. We must be clothed in the rigtheousness of Jesus – there is no righteousnes in us by ourselves. Our righteousness is as “filthy rags” as Isaiah so beautifully pointed out. We only have righteousness in Christ alone.

    That is why His grace is enough and is sufficient.

    God bless,
    gloria

  13. 13 Echo
    May 9, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    GB: “Actually, the verses say “For all have sinned” and “for that all have sinned”. Ever notice that both of those verses speak of sin in the past tense. That is what the Gospel is for, to put sin behind us through repentance.”

    Is ALL sin “past tense” for you?


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