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A Week in Provo

I have been spending the week in Provo going door to door encouraging people to visit the website beyeperfect.org.  The people have been very courteous.  I have met some very nice people and have had some good discussions.  It has been a wonderful experience.  Many sincerely thanked us for our message.  Some were eager to hear more.

But I left some people with a great feeling of sadness.  As I write this I can think of the faces of various people I talked with.  They listened attentively and asked probing questions.  But they also stated with conviction that they had to do their part to be saved.  They were honestly taken aback by the thought that salvation and eternal life were entirely a gift of God.

I think of those people with sadness because the Bible is so clear that any reliance on our works ruins salvation.  “And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace.  But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.” (Romans 11:6)  That is so serious.  Such a mixture of grace and works is a formula for experiencing the eternal and total misery of hell.

As I walked away after having another one of those conversations I prayed that the Lord would open their eyes to the full gospel – the message that Jesus has done everything for us.  I prayed that when they struggled with sin and realized that they couldn’t abandon sin that they would remember our conversation and the message that Jesus was perfect in their place, as their Substitute. I pray that the Lord will cause the seeds of God’s Word that we planted in Provo this week to grow in their hearts so that they will trust completely in Jesus’ works for salvation and enjoy eternal happiness in his presence.

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8 Responses to “A Week in Provo”


  1. August 2, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Amen. I am so encouraged by your efforts. God bless you.

  2. 2 Kent
    August 3, 2012 at 8:35 am

    What I didn’t realize is that when telling Mormons about the gospel that they can sometimes not listen to what we are saying because they don’t think we have the proper authority to be sharing the gospel. A Mormon on another site I post at went so far as to tell me that I don’t have this proper authority.

    But if this is the case, then I would like to ask Mormons to read the following passages and consider what the Bible is saying and not disregard it because it is me presenting it here.

    Can you, even if you don’t agree, at least see why I believe that grace doesn’t have anything to do with works based on the following passages?

    “And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.” (Romans 11:6)

    “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

    In closing again:

    WHOEVER BELIEVES IN THE SON HAS ETERNAL LIFE!

    SAVED=ETERNAL LIFE=EVERLASTING LIFE!

    BY NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!

  3. 3 Kent
    August 3, 2012 at 10:09 am

    I know I have posted this information many times before and while it may seem redundant to some, here it is again and I hope any Mormons that read this can see why I believe what I believe and that they can see this based on the words from the Bible alone.

    This is why I believe that this is the complete gospel, that Christ died for our sins and rose again on the third day and it is not just the first principles of the gospel.

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    15 Moreover, brethren, I DECLARE UNTO YOU THE GOSPEL WHICH I PREACHED UNTO YOU, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
    2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
    3 FOR I DELIVERED UNTO YOU FIRST OF ALL THAT WHICH I ALSO RECEIVED, HOW THAT CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES;
    4 AND THAT HE WAS BURIED, AND THAT HE ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES

    Below is what we must do to be saved, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and what He did to save us, sinners who cannot ever save ourselves. Can people see why I don’t believe works are involved to be saved? These passages don’t say anything about works being involved.

    Acts 16:30-34

    30 And brought them out, and said, SIRS, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? 31 AND THEY SAID, BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED, and thy house.
    32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
    33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
    34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

    Romans 10:9-13

    9 THAT IF THOU SHALT CONFESS WITH THY MOUTH THE LORD JESUS, AND SHALT BELIEVE IN THINE HEART THAT GOD HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, THOU SHALT BE SAVED. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
    11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
    12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
    13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    Below shows why I believe SAVED=ETERNAL LIFE=EVERLASTING LIFE and it ties in with the above passages on what we must do to be saved.

    1 John 5:10-13

    10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
    11 And this is the record, that GOD HATH GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, AND THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON.
    12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
    13 These things have I written unto you THAT BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD; THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

    John 3:14-16

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
    15 THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.

    In closing again:

    WHOEVER BELIEVES IN THE SON HAS ETERNAL LIFE!

    SAVED=ETERNAL LIFE=EVERLASTING LIFE!

    BY NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!

  4. 4 joshtried
    August 5, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    I appreciate you sharing what you know with those LDS you encounter. I just wish that one day you realize the other half of the coin.

    Anyone willing to learn what that other half is feel free to email me @:
    williams.joshuajames@yahoo.com

  5. 5 choosethechrist
    August 5, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    “I pray that the Lord will cause the seeds of God’s Word that we planted in Provo this week to grow in their hearts so that they will trust completely in Jesus’ works for salvation and enjoy eternal happiness in his presence.”

    Amen!

    God Bless you for your efforts Mark!

  6. 6 wyomingwilly
    August 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Mark, I pray that those many Mormons you came in contact with , having lived their side of the coin by
    working hard to try and earn the highest heaven and be with God there, will realize that your message
    is what they were looking for before they were detoured by the sales techniques of Mormon Missionaries.
    The last few years has seen a sizable crowd of sincere Mormons cease with church involvement , they
    are ready to heard the liberating truth about Jesus . The precious Mormon people deserve to know the
    the full truth about Jesus . So keep up your your effort.

  7. August 6, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    In the Articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints it states…

    “We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.”

    I pray that the eyes of Mormons would be opened to see how awesome is our God. Mankind cannot be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances (Romans 3:19-20; Romans 3:28; Romans 6:14; Romans 8:2; Galatians 2:16; Galatians 2:21; Galatians 3:10; Galatians 3:25; Galatians 5:4; 1 Timothy 1:9) but only through Jesus who has done everything for us. Amen!

  8. 8 JBR
    August 7, 2012 at 1:38 am

    The other side of the coin is outer darkness as Jesus revealed in Matthew 8:12 and in Matthew 22:13

    Jesus would not reveal one thing only to contradict himself later on… (Romans 3:19-20; Romans 3:28; Romans 6:14; Romans 8:2; Galatians 2:16; Galatians 2:21; Galatians 3:10; Galatians 3:25; Galatians 5:4; 1 Timothy 1:9)


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